Speaker 1: 0:00

Did I give it away, or was it a persuasion? You are in my space, I I, oh wait. I don't care what you say, I'm loving it this way. I'm hoping that you stay. I I, oh wait. You're talking me to it, or was it a persuasion? You are in my space.

Speaker 2: 0:21

I I, oh wait, I don't care what you say, I'm loving it this way. Okay, welcome to the Self Made In Single, single podcast. I should say welcome back. I have someone here that I literally we were just saying off, I'll say off camera, off mic, or whatever we want to say. It has been years. It's been like four years, um, but it feels maybe because of social media, it's been much shorter. But I'm here with someone that I worked together with back when I was like new, new, new, yeah. So you know, lots of different changes happened since then, but one thing specifically with this particular person is we were working on relationships and like self-improvement and you know where she personally wanted to go and become unstuck, but love was a huge, huge part of it, and so I brought her back. I thought, ok, I know some things have happened in her life, some exciting things that she'll tell you about, but I would love to welcome back Alejandra, hello.

Speaker 1: 1:40

Hi Rachel, Thank you for inviting me. It's a pleasure to be here with you and your audience today.

Speaker 2: 1:49

Yes, it's so good to have you. I know like you're very busy now, like you're always busy, but you're even busier now with your life, and so it's really a pleasure that you've given me this opportunity and everyone listening to catch up with you and see what's been going on. So, like, why don't we start from the beginning? So you were part of a coaching container of this program that I was launching way, way in the beginning, and we were focusing on love. So, like what, do you remember? What were the key things you wanted to look at when it came to relationships in love?

Speaker 1: 2:21

yes, um. Well, at that time I remember I was um single, I broke um with um, I was married and then I went through divorce and and it was a sort of painful time of my life, but also I knew that I wanted to build something good in the future for for myself. And then, out of something I don't know, life brought you, brought us together and then I was able to work with you and you really make me think, like what does does Alejandra wanted in her life? You know, like, okay, the past is past, but from here on, what do I want? What kind of relationship? And then I was, I really acknowledged that something I really wanted was to have my own family.

Speaker 1: 3:21

You know, and I didn't know how it was going to happen, but I knew I wanted to be with someone that really cared and I really cared about this person and a nurturing relationship, and also including, yes, having some small people around us. Having some small people around us, and from then it was. It took not so long, but then you helped me out to discover that and then I said like, okay, what I can do and what I'm looking for and what I can tolerate and what I cannot tolerate in a relationship, and what I can bear with and what I'm looking for and what I can tolerate and what I cannot tolerate in a relationship, and what I can bear with and what I cannot. And then I reconnect with someone of my past and then I think it was part that we both learned the lesson of being clear of what we didn't need it from each other and that we were not like in a stage of joking or just having fun and then um, we took the next step and decided to live together.

Speaker 1: 4:45

And somehow during the pandemic he was like unsure, he wanted to have a baby, but during this time it was very nurturing for both of us. And then we got a baby. And then today I can tell you no, I said my, he's my husband.

Speaker 2: 5:17

Oh I didn't know this part. It's so beautiful.

Speaker 1: 5:22

Yeah, and then, yeah, we are his family, you know, and he's very happy also with Leonardo he's the name of our son, strong name. Yes, he's like brave as a lion he is. And yes, so we were in a stage before that we couldn't break the cycle of just like, oh, let's see where we are going, just relax and to take the next step. You know, yeah, relax and to take the next step. You know, yeah, and I think it was very. The coaching session that we had was very helpful also for me in my communication skills with my partner, you know, because I could tell him like, okay, I am able to do this, or compare with this or not with that, and or tolerate some things or not, you know. And then, uh, of course, not everything has been like, uh, easy peasy, but, um, yeah, slowly, slowly, we, it has come better. And then, yes, we are in a more mature stage of our lives.

Speaker 2: 6:50

I will say I love that because, you know, as we were talking offline, I don't believe in, you know, some of these relationships where everything is perfect and it's so perfectly curated. And here we are in Mykonos, the bed is covered in roses, like, okay, I'm not saying it's not real, but I mean like we know what a long-term relationship looks like. You know, like men forget to take out the rubbish, they don't know what to cook or what to eat or where we're gonna go, they forget things. That's real life, um, and so it's so nice that you've pointed out, like you know, it's not perfect, but actually that's healthy. It means that both you and him are in this place of secure attachment where you can just be yourselves. And, as you said, you know, communication is something it feels like it's it's much better, but it's something that's like a working, uh, work in progress consistently, which is again another sign of secure attachment. It's not just okay, yeah, we can communicate, that's it, we're perfect, it's.

Speaker 1: 7:54

You know, you're very much aware that of course, there is no, no perfection. We still have, like, um, some arguments, daily argument about small and bigger stuff, normal, like life is not exactly. Life is not perfect. But I mean, I learned that and also, this is very important that I learned from you that the more I show my feminine energy with him, he embrace that and he offers more masculine side, because I used to be very self-standing I don't know if that's the right term Like I could do anything on my own.

Speaker 2: 8:44

You know, I don't need a man.

Speaker 1: 8:47

I have my job, I can go here, have my holidays and do this, do that, whatever, like if I need to fix something, I look for the right person and the person will come and fix it.

Speaker 1: 9:09

Person and the person will come and fix it. Yeah, but when I put myself on that um, feminine energy or or side he him, he put his masculine side. You know, he comes like the man I need to hold me and support me and like, okay, let's try to fix these together or how can I help you? Or you know, yeah, and I think that was part of our problems, big part of our problems, before we came back and and I still nowadays I am a little bit, still a little bit controller or a much controller monster, but I'm trying to deal with that you know, and I'm trying to focus on, like all that, what he brings to the relationship, and also be grateful with that, because if I am just pointing out whatever, like oh, you didn't do this or you are missing that, things don't really work and they get even worse, right, exactly.

Speaker 1: 10:19

So I think that is part of what we women need to work at, and sometimes we forget it, that we know that this is the feminist moment and that women get better jobs and we are doing better. But we also want someone that takes care of us and listens to us, and maybe it's not like everything, and and maybe it's not like everything or like all um in in in a way of physically or like economically or no, but uh, we all want, at the end, love, right, and we're here to be loved and love some, exactly our partner.

Speaker 2: 11:03

I love that you've said said this because that feminine, masculine polarity a lot of women, like you said, like I speak to a lot of strong women who were like oh, oh, I don't know about that. And really it's so perfect that you said this, because obviously at first it feels like if I'm more feminine, am I weaker? I don't want to be weaker, I don't want to give up my power, but you can hold feminine power and be power. Sorry, you can hold being your feminine and still hold power, but in a way that takes practice. And I think you get more power with that, because that's where we should be. We should be in that state, in that feminine state.

Speaker 2: 11:43

When it's done properly, it's beautiful. And the reason why he becomes more like, oh OK, I should take charge, I should be more masculine, is because when women lean into their feminine energy, it actually makes men like have more testosterone. So they're like, oh God, I love this, OK, what else can I do? And it puts them in that natural position of where they should be too yes, and actually they want to do more exactly.

Speaker 1: 12:09

And one example for that is like I don't know in, I'm not a good cooker, but I try to a good cook, sorry, but I try to have everything you know like, we need or like. And then he loves cooking in the mornings, he loves his time. And then now my son is learning from this. You know like okay, daddy is cooking for us in the morning, this is the way he's taking care of us and our breakfast is our family time. And then when I am like more lovely or like tender with my partner, and then our kid looks what I'm doing, he wants even more. He's like oh, I'm learning, this is the way a man behaves and this is the way I should treat a woman. And then he's like oh, mommy, you need to sit down and we have the breakfast for you.

Speaker 2: 13:11

And daddy, have you already had breakfast.

Speaker 1: 13:14

Yes, he's shouting daddy, daddy, the breakfast, mommy's here, and then, you know, yes, and he's learning also, and this is very important, because it's not only us as a couple, but us as a family, and there is a new person who is learning and I hope that in the future he also has, um, this, um way of of knowing how to take care of women.

Speaker 2: 13:46

You know, yes, and I think 100, but I think it's, oh god, that's like made me like tear up because it's so cute and so beautiful, because this is the age that children pick up things, you know. And if he has that example, so young, so how? So he's four or three, no, he's two and a half.

Speaker 1: 14:07

He's two and a half, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2: 14:08

And he's like mommy's here.

Speaker 1: 14:10

Come on, dad oh, my god, we have to bring the breakfast. And then he sees that I give a kiss to daddy, saying thank you again, where I reflect this feminine energy, or I say thank you or give him a charm or something, and then he wants to have the same, you know, because he knows that this is our, this is our um love language too maybe we don't love you or whatever, but he's learning also to love and receive.

Speaker 1: 14:44

Yes, and this is something, yes, that if I hadn't been on that coach, coaching session with you and, um, I would maybe still be in in the same place like thinking that, oh, yes, I could solve it all, and just things are going to come out, maybe on their own, and are going to happen. And no, you also taught me, or we have this opportunity to share, that, okay, yes, you tell. In my case, I believe in God. Tell to God or to the main source or whatever, whatever you need to go, or to the main source or whatever, whatever you need, but you also have to look the way you have you, you are gonna achieve the things or get them right. And if I was just standing, if I were just standing there, without your help, maybe I will be just on my own, maybe in this time, and and no, leonardo it sounds like, you know, your heart was really cracked open to that, that higher feminine power, that spirit because spirituality is another part of it.

Speaker 2: 15:58

You know, really being open and surrendering to the higher force and saying I don't know what to do. I'm going to try something different. Here are my issues. I trust you, and that surrendering part is missing from a lot of women's strategy. They feel like because they're doing everything else on their own. And you know, you know, as a high achieving woman, like all of us, have had trauma or some sort of difficult family life that's pushed us to be like I'm self-sufficient, I can do it. And so if you take it to the point where you don't even rely on this higher power, you're going to struggle. You're going to struggle because there are conversations that you're never going to hear, there are forces that you're never going to be able to tap into without that connection to source or God or angels, and so it's really important to do that and also important to remember that that higher power wants you to be successful, you know, wants you to open up to love and be the best that you can be. So I'm so happy about that. That's really cool.

Speaker 1: 17:00

Yes.

Speaker 2: 17:00

Thank you. Oh well, yeah, I just I didn't know you were married. I thought, what, when did that happen? That's beautiful.

Speaker 1: 17:10

Yes, yeah, but I mean, it's not like we have been taught like, or you, you are like the fairy tale. Oh, you get married and everything is perfect after. No I think that is when the story begins.

Speaker 2: 17:30

Right.

Speaker 1: 17:31

And it's a different chapter. But also I think it's important that you still reconnect constantly with yourself, like, okay, I'm in this stage, where do I want to be in the future? Or what do I need to be in the future, in, in whatever, I want to be right or if I am doing fine or not? Because, yes, I mean, we also have had hard times. You know when we are like oh, I'm over you at some point, but you realize that.

Speaker 1: 18:07

No, I mean you got to work with the person you have beside you and like, if you really want to, both of you, I mean, tolerate the things that you are able to and work on whatever you can work to be a better person for yourself and and for for your partner and your family.

Speaker 2: 18:32

Because if not, I mean families break very, very, very easily and I think, even more nowadays that so key, like what you've said there as well, because I think a lot of women do feel, okay, this is the final step.

Speaker 2: 18:48

Is a wedding, a final step is this big engagement ring, and they lose sight of it's a vow, it's supposed to be forever. So it's really serious and something happens like I don't know if you feel the same, like becoming engaged, something I really feel, something chemically happens, where you look at your partner differently and maybe they look at you differently as well, but particularly women look at their men differently and say, okay, like, are you going to be a good enough husband because it's a completely different level of responsibility. And then, I'm sure, once the actual marriage happened, it's like, okay, we're locked in, like this is supposed to be for better, for worse, completely different level of responsibility. And then, I'm sure, once the actual marriage happened, it's like, okay, we're locked in, like this is supposed to be for better, for worse, richer, for poorer. Are we a team? How do we become more cohesive? So you know a lot of things maybe that didn't even come out or did come out, but are exasperated in the marriage because you're locked in.

Speaker 1: 19:40

You know exactly and then you gotta realize that I mean you are two different people sharing. You know they, they have the, the same ceiling or the same yes, house, but each of you has a different goal or a different perspective of things and I mean you have to also embrace and let grow whatever your, your interests are, own.

Speaker 2: 20:13

Don't, don't just settle like, oh, this is, um, this is us, and nothing is going to happen to us, because, no, I mean exactly things can happen and each person needs to grow on their own but, um, but also together, you know I love that so good, like that's the real definition of interdependence as well, because I know there are a lot of high achieving women who, like they are so self-sufficient the idea of a relationship, the kind they like, the idea, but the actual idea of blending together feels horrible.

Speaker 2: 20:53

And I understand why. Because there's a lot of like enmeshed, codependent relationships out there and people are saying, okay, this is true love like you don't have to become, you don't have the have to have the boundary so blurred that you don't know where you begin and the other person ends. But you can be interdependent like the way that you've described, where you're still a whole, you know you're still a whole person and just on a daily basis, you choose each other exactly, and now we are, for example, working on some we have to wait um, as we had the baby and we forgot a little bit that we are a couple and or not that we forgot, but we didn't have enough time.

Speaker 1: 21:40

But because who takes care of the baby and their daily life and routine is like so big or massive with daily things that you forget that you are also a partner. And then we are also precisely working on that, like we have to have our own dates. Date night, yes, or nights, yes, where I mean here in Mexico, it's not that common to have a nanny.

Speaker 1: 22:17

Ah, no, exactly, so you have to rely a lot on trustful people and that mainly means the family or the grandparents, and so we don't want to represent a burden for them, right? But sometimes we are, yes, the we are trying to work that, using this time to reconnect with each with each other because, yeah, I mean sometimes this refreshness of doing new things or like, okay, where are you at in this moment, or what do you want out of life, and recognizing that your partner needs and your own needs is is important yes, and I think a big thing.

Speaker 2: 23:13

I remember oh my god, maybe it was my first podcast I had this interview with someone who specializes in this area and I wish to god I could remember her name. But she was saying that one thing women collectively need to heal is, oh my god, if I spend time with my partner and like, leave my child or children with someone else, I'm neglecting them. But actually, if you want to be the best mother you can be, you need to prioritize your relationship right exactly, exactly, yes, yes.

Speaker 1: 23:46

I love that, yeah, exactly. I mean sometimes you are like, okay, you have to bring the pampers, okay, you have to bring food, okay, we have to do this, but you forget, like and just chill out, sit down with your partner, and it can be even like in your own house. I mean it will be better if you can go out right for something new, but I mean having just like a glass of wine, talking or like having a nice conversation, relax. It's very, very important and this is, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2: 24:33

Dímelo.

Speaker 1: 24:35

Sí, sí, sí Es parte del que estés bien, totalmente Claro, sí it's part of being well mentally, yeah, of course. And connecting with your partner what's going on on the other side, Because sometimes you lose between day and day.

Speaker 2: 24:56

So what Alejandro was saying guys, for anyone who doesn't speak Spanish is that you just like connect with your own well-being and like the fact that every day, you know you wake up imagine 7 am and then you work and you come home, dinner's ready, ok, goodbye, good night. The day goes by so quickly that before you know it, time has passed. So it's it's about that, you know. Connecting with yourself, yeah, making sure you're well. I think, uh, it's so important and I wish more people got that part.

Speaker 2: 25:27

You know like, uh, this, and this is why I mean, I would never, ever say, um, cheating or infidelity is okay, it's obviously not. It's obviously horrific, it's obviously a big betrayal, but it happens in small pieces of abandonment of the main relationship, the core relationship that built the children, you know, and it's it's so important to prioritize the relationship. But, but also not just because of the infidelity, but yourself, you know who are you when you're not a mother? Who are you when you get dressed up and you're like, oh, okay, you know, because, uh, it prevents that mother wound developing of all I am is a mother. I lost my identity. I don't know how to feel sexy again.

Speaker 1: 26:12

You know exactly, and and they would go again back to this point of where is your feminine energy exactly? You have to go back to this and and also it's teaching the new generations what it means to be to take care of yourself exactly that that should be also a a priority, I think also for baby leo.

Speaker 2: 26:37

It's like also, my mom and dad are not 24 7 available for me, which is healthy, I think. You know, if he never is away from you guys, then again it doesn't form healthy attachment. He needs to. Eventually he will understand. Oh okay, sometimes mom and dad go out and I'm not invited, but it's cool, you know. So, no, it's good, it's really really good. Oh, so nice. I was supposed to visit last year the next date night. Oh no, I was gonna say the next couple trip.

Speaker 1: 27:13

Yeah, oh, um, holiday yeah, yeah, yeah, just Just two, three days maybe. Londres it's a little bit far away.

Speaker 2: 27:26

I was supposed to, I was saying I was supposed to come to DF last year I think it was last year or two years ago, I can't remember and I was going to tell you. I think I told you I was thinking about it, maybe already, and I was yeah, there was a like a yoga retreat thing in the middle of nowhere and, um, it was a bit scary because they they had like, uh, shamanic stuff and it was like, uh, it's like um, oh, there's a very specific word that you guys call it.

Speaker 1: 28:00

Oh, there's a very specific word that you guys call it which is like uh, how would you describe it for our listeners? Like what it is if they don't know? Uh, it's kind of like a hot bath with steam and some herbs. And then it's also, I think, a very spiritual thing, because at some point you are kind of even. It can be different, it can be in a tipi, or it can be like a glue form or something like that, made out of stone, and it's the shaman or like the person. It's a I don't want to say exactly a spiritual leader, but the leader and he's taking you on different stages, because at some point you are, oh, this is fine, fine, but then it starts raising the heat and raising more, and then you, at some point, you want to go out and get out of it because it's it's too hot and you and you, sometimes people, even faint yeah this is all in a spiritual way, I think it.

Speaker 1: 29:19

It's part of what you, until what level you are able of, yes, achieve or reach, and then like, yeah, it's a completely different experience. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 29:39

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 29:46

I mean, yes, you were worried about that this yeah, because I had been there and and it's a nice place, yeah, the only thing for me was, um, I went on YouTube, a little bit like when you google symptoms and it tells you you have this big chronic disease. I went on YouTube and people were saying someone passed out, they needed to go to the hospital. So I messaged the organizers and I said, hey, do you have a medical professional on site? Because this sounds crazy. And to this day I still laugh with my friend about this, because I was in Thailand when I was looking at this um retreat and we laughed because when I got the reply from the organizers the, the reply after I sent them a massive paragraph you know British style of all the worries I had and they said trust the medicine. That was the end. That was that was the sentence trust the medicine. So today, to this day, we laugh about this um, because it's just like a hello no, um, yes, well, I, I've been at the hotel and at the place.

Speaker 1: 30:57

Not okay, in this Temazcal I was in another one. But yes, I completely get it like some people can get. Yeah, health issues, and that can be yes, because normally even for like a normal sauna.

Speaker 2: 31:14

Um, I can't be in there for too long, I feel. So I feel like claustrophobic, which sounds crazy, but I just get. I'm like no, no, no, I can't, I've got to get out. So my fear was, um, because I said to them oh, can I just skip it? And they were like no, oh, okay, um, so that already gave me like a feeling of, oh, I don't want something where I have to do it. Um, but, um, what was I gonna say? Yeah, I didn't want to get to a position where I felt trapped, but I, maybe one day I'll explore it. I'm not sure, but it's good to know at least you've done it and you're like it's okay, it's not so bad.

Speaker 1: 31:53

So maybe it's just the mental thinking about it too much and I think it is like in the moment you feel dizzy or you feel like something is not working with you, you just get out of there and that's it. In the right moment, you feel it Right, Don't wait no no, exactly, don't like collapse.

Speaker 2: 32:12

Yeah, exactly, that was my fear, but like, oh my God. So, yeah, I may consider it. Who knows, maybe I'll trust the medicine I might. I may consider it, who knows, maybe I'll trust the medicine it was just funny. Like after all that. I was like what about a medical professional?

Speaker 1: 32:34

This link says that. And they said, yep, just trust the medicine Done. So, who knows, they were not prepared with medical assistance.

Speaker 2: 32:38

No, no for sure, but okay, so so all right. So you're thinking about a trip, unfortunately not London, but what else do you guys have planned in the near future?

Speaker 1: 32:52

um, I mean, I think, um, hey, yes, keep working on us on now, on how to remember that we are a couple before we are parents. I mean, of course, we love our son and and he's the most important person in the world for both of us. But, yes, do not lose that connection because, um, with the time and with people go and come and in different situations, yes, we tend to forget why we are there or who we we were in in the past, that, that, that side of us that we used to like and, um, yeah, I mean from them, keep going with life and doing it.

Speaker 2: 33:42

Yes, carrying on and do you both plan on having another one?

Speaker 1: 33:49

I think no, for the moment not. And and yeah, it's more complicated than we thought. Yes, yeah, but I mean, if it happens, I'm very happy and I'm sure he will be very happy too, and we embrace it with a lot of love.

Speaker 2: 34:12

I hope to meet this little human. He sounds like he's got such a character, Como no, with his mom. You know how is he not going to have a character with Alejandro's mama? But no, it would be great to meet him.

Speaker 1: 34:26

And to meet your partner as well, yeah so if I'm, if we, it would be our pleasure to have you here.

Speaker 2: 34:32

I would love you know, I would love it Like honestly I love. I miss Mexico. It's such a long time since I was there, long long long, long, long time.

Speaker 1: 34:40

Mi casa es tu casa.

Speaker 2: 34:41

Gracias Igualmente. If you want to come to London, like tomorrow, thank you. But, okay, this has been really wonderful and I think you know so good that you've jumped on and I love how open and honest you've been. So I really I'm thankful for that and I'm sure people listening will love what you have to share such an authentic, like talk about marriage and kids and, okay, sometimes it's not as glamorous but it's obviously very fulfilling because your glow is just like even more than when I met you when we were talking, you know, but it's um, there is a shift in energy with you.

Speaker 2: 35:18

For sure, you're just, you really have dropped and owned this feminine energy and you can see that you're fulfilled and settled and and supported and happy, which is great. So you know, knowing all the stuff that we went through and how it's really strongly impacted your relationships for women that are like on the fence, you know I have women that have watched me for years and they're still like I don't know. Yet you know what would you say to those women about private coaching, and you know really investing in themselves and working together to make their relationship, you know, similar to yours, you know, fulfilling, with a nice partner and a beautiful son well, uh, I really could understand why a person would not want to take a or prefer, maybe would not like to take a coaching session or prefer maybe a psychologist or I don't know, psychiatrist.

Speaker 1: 36:18

This is something very different because when I took the opportunity to work with you, I think it was something I decided to try hey, why not? You know, this is something I have never tried. I know that she's not, yeah, a psychologist, but I knew that you. I knew you from London from back years, way back, and I could tell that you have this energy very. You were always like glowing, very happy and very positive, and I could see how men look at you, like they were always amazed and like, yeah, even, yes, we used to go together, we hung out.

Speaker 1: 37:09

And for me you were like a mentor. At that time I look at you and I was like amazed, oh wow, like a mentor.

Speaker 1: 37:19

And at that time I look at him and he, I was like amazed, like oh wow, I really, really attracts a man and and she has the standards you know, and and when the coaching sessions came and said, yeah, like let's give it a try and I'm sure she knows what she does, because before I knew you were on this coaching, I saw you on real life and you were not even like working on this, and so for me it was like, okay, this is a call maybe from the universe, from God, and why not give it just a try?

Speaker 1: 37:55

from the universe from God and why not give it just a try? And it's more like how you can talk to a friend, but in a very open way, you know, and a friend that knows about the matter of loving, of self-care, of having a standard, and he's like in a certain way yes, like as a business, you know, like directing. Okay, you want this. Don't don't be on the, on the rumbles and or or like be rumbling around. We need to focus on this area. Okay, for the next session, you are gonna think on what you want and how you can achieve it, and we are going to work on these systems.

Speaker 1: 38:36

And sometimes I was not like very straight on what I wanted or like doing all my work. It was not so much, but I was a little bit confused and you guide me through and it was very good, you know, and you sometimes put things um on words of what I wanted and what I mean, like with my ideas or what I, what I was looking for, and it also is. It's very different, because it's not like oh, you are there in the, in the, in the sofa or in the coach and you are talking to someone stranger, where this is more like a, in a friendly way, exactly and and I mean, like you, I knew you, you have life experience because I saw it and it really worked, you know and and it's it's more like a chatty thing, like going for it was at that time what we did.

Speaker 1: 39:46

I was in Mexico and you were in the UK and it was for me was my perfect time, like having going for a coffee with a super good friend and really talking about deep, deep um areas that I needed to talk about or topics that I needed to to work with and. I think it's. It's completely different and and and I don't think professional psychologists will treat about these themes- the topic of the universe and the feminine side.

Speaker 2: 40:27

No, no, they won't.

Speaker 1: 40:29

The astronomy, and it's a mixture of a a lot of things, right, yes, you take what you, what is good for you? Yeah, and it for me, was a cutting edge in my life after, after those um coaching sessions.

Speaker 2: 40:53

I, yes, I love that oh, I love that and you know it's. It's so interesting what you said, like psychologists, psychologists and therapists and life coaches, oh, different. If you can work with all of us, wonderful, but we're so different, we're so different. You know, like you, I can't I can't even imagine a psychologist talking about feminine energy and you know all of this stuff. No, they keep it clinical. So, you know, if you want someone more focused, like you know, as Alejandro is saying, like this is what private coaching is about and specifically, within specific time frame and aim, this is what it's about. You know, psychologists and therapists, they have their own thing, their own jam.

Speaker 1: 41:34

Exactly, and that doesn't mean you are fighting with each other. You know we're a family yes, exactly exactly self-help family. If you are looking for something that you are targeting in the near future or you know that you need to work on on I don't know this part of the relationships or or yourself.

Speaker 2: 42:03

I think it's a, it's a great opportunity and it's something, it's a gift that you can give to yourself right and, as you can see, it's a gift that keeps on giving, like years later, you know, you're still saying wow, actually, back then this has really been helpful and it continues to be helpful, you know, and more insight from yourself continues to come in and you learn how to rely on yourself the way that you used to, yes, but in a way that is interdependent with your partner, in a way that is really leaning back in that feminine power. So so good, so good to catch up. Yeah, thank you very much and it's only real you.